Wednesday, June 24, 2015

LENAPE LAND QUESTIONS for STANZA 1

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SPRING 2017 LENAPE HISTORY,
WEEK 1, LENAPE LIVED THERE

The LENAPE HISTORY Is 
the OLDEST known HISTORY in AMERICA
When the waves were calm 
in the land they left,
the Lenape lived together there
in strong hollow houses with thick roofs.

A. What did “When the waves were calm” mean?

B. Where was “ the land they left?”


C. Which culture “lived . . . in strong hollow houses with thick roofs?”
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  1. A. What did “When the waves were calm” mean?
    Cut mean when the water was frozen or it cut mean that
    the were in (Danish “smult vand“ ) a natural harbor, cove
    or river.


    B. Where was the land the left?
    Have to be Greenland.

    C. Which culture “Lived….. in strong hollow houses with thick
    roofs?”
    Only the Norse lived in long, square houses with strong thick roofs. There is one rebuilt in South Greenland

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  3. Kenneth Lumpkin (Montreal) wrote via FB

    I see that the images are from the Walam Olum, (WA) which is a esoteric bit of Americana, as one Samuel Rafinesque (circa 1840's?) (this is all from my memory) met a dr. Ward on an Indiana farm and he had these barks with carved pictoglyphs stained wth red ochre known as the Red Score of The Lenape. Daniel Brinton has a translation, as I'm sure his is the one used the most, along with Rafinesque's own translation. I have worked with it in many forms, including a poeticized one and published parts of it in 1979 in Issue 3 of Talking Wood, a journal about land and life in the Passaic Watershed. The thing is that no Lenape, living or dead, recognizes it as being genuinely Lenape. It does, however, resemble pictoglyphs of the Ojibway. Go Google image yourself ojibwe pictographs - Google Search Furthermore, no living, interviewed Lenape (I interviewed both Nora Dean Thompson, last fluent Unami speaker and James Lone Bear Reavey, a Lenape who resided in New Jersey) and neither of these valuable human sources knew anything about the Walam Olum, except what they had recently heard, due to the press surrounding it.
    As far as the questions go, A. since the WA shows a western to eastern migration of the Lenape, the great waters could be that of the Mississippi or Missouri Rivers. and B. the land they left, if you believe the WA then the land they left would be land west of these rivers. Remember Lenape is an Algonkian language so there may be some truth to this. and C. Dwellings like this are familiar to many groups. The Haudenosaunee or Iroquois longhouse for one...and other Northern groups, even the Lenape themselves lived in longhouse like structures i.e. The Big House Ceremony, etc.
    Scholars think the WA may have been an invention of the Ojibway or Chippewa at Nativization in the onslaught of European culture, religion and disease. So saying the WA is Lenape may be wholly untrue.
    KL/London, Ontario

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