Saturday, July 2, 2016

ANSWERS to the DECISION


LENAPE HISTORY OF AMERICA,
           
All say they
will go along,
All who are free to go

What was the LENAPE historian representing?
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The LENAPE historian was representing a “long house” where an Althoeng (a big meeting) was in progress.  The long house was so crowded that some (the three heads) had to look in from the doorway.
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NOTICE the three “wisps’” of “spoken words” coming out of the right end of the long house.  
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Yes, they look the same as the “spoken words” on the Aztec banners that escaped the wrath of Cortez and the Spanish priests that followed him.  The Aztecs may have spoken Norse also.
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Who are "they," who "will go along?"


VANG: It is the people there [that] could follow. The other older people, children etc.  They have to rest on the sledge.
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Myron: "They were all people, who could walk as fast as the rest of the people, who could pull their weight in a sled on ice, and who could make or get “walking houses.”
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Walking houses” where similar to “Eskimo” outfits designed to keep a body “housed” in minus 60 degree centigrade weather.
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They would have to be able to pull their share of a sled, which was full of resting bodies, into a wind as cold as 60 decrees centigrade.


Why are some NOT free to go?


Vang: Maybe they had family there were not strong enough to go, maybe hope about better time.
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Myron: Some had business commitments to partners in Iceland.  Some had old parents that were too weak to go.  Some had a large young family that required too much milk. [Many of the surviving remains of homes excavated in Greenland had cow skeletons in the sheds.]

If you have studied Ancient America, you have seen the “speaking” symbols , on the right of the Big House, before Where?

Vang: An ancient Hopi Indian prophecy states, "When the Blue Star Kachina makes its appearance in the heavens, the Fifth World will emerge". This will be the Day of Purification. The Hopi name for the star sirus is Blue Star Kachina. It will come when the Saquasohuh (Blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes its mask.

Myron:  These are the "speaking" symbols on the Aztec banners that survived Cortez and the purge by the Spanish Priests.  There is other evidence to support a hypothesis that the people in Iceland and Central America had many facets of the same culture.

Sone concepts never die. Every two years Ohio and Michigan football teams play the big game where?


Vang: Since 1918, the game's site has alternated between Columbus, Ohio, and, Ann Arbor, Michigan (Michigan hosts it in odd years and Ohio State in even years), and has been played in Ohio Stadium since 1922 and Michigan Stadium since 1927.
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Myron: The BIG HOUSE is the Michigan Stadium.  "Michigan" is an Lenape word meaning "Middle sea basin,"
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Those of the north agreed.
Those of the east agreed.
Over the waters,
over the frozen sea
They went to enjoy it

Who were
those of the North?


Vang: The people at Greenland, there decided to walk to Merica.

Myron: Evidence and testimony indicates that Greenland had sixteen (16) churches: six in the North and ten in the south.

When the Althoeng was coming to a close, a man must have said, “OK, We have agreed to go, but what about the women?”
The men in the Althoeng may have agreed that the women in all the churches should make their decisions.

The Lenape in Oklahoma in the 20th century had twelve masks on the wall of their longhouse.  Lenape knew that Christians do not make idols of GOD.  But a mask representing the SAKAMAN (judge) of their church was a reasonable idol.

Twelve masks imply that the women in two to four churches in the North agreed to go.

Who were those of the East?

If two to four churches in the North agreed. Then there were eight to ten masks from the south.  The women in eight to ten of the 10 churches must have agreed to walk to Mer Rica.

Where was the frozen sea?


VANG: Davis strait was covered by ice all year.

Myron: The frozen sea is now known as Davis Strait.  The ice covered the sea all year around.  Testimony implies ice as far south as Nova Scotia.

Sleds could move stuff with less risk than rowboats in water full of ice bergs.  Rowboats were far more risky—almost useless. Ice bergs may have been floating south even in the summer.
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The Waiting Grounds
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DISCUSSION
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The Wikipedia site lists four Rune stones, HEAVNER, POTEAU, SHAWNEE, and PAWNEE.  The Wikipedia author also wrote that all of them, except for a 20% chance of the HEAVNER stone being older, are “modern,” which is another way of writing “Hoax.
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Make a brief list that argues against the statements of the author.  Describe a possible scenario that could explain the four rune stones, which were found where they were in the condition they were.

Vang: HEAVER stone arguments:

1. The 20% is like weather forecast, if it rains it is 100%, if it isn’t rain it is 0 %. If it is old, what I believe, is how old.?
2. That a Swedish railroad worker should have made the rune stone is hard to believe.
3. Weather condition looked for me, like the famous Danish rune stone “Jelling stone” there are more than 1000 years old. 
4. The argument that they don’t have been Vikings in that area, could be true or false he doesn’t know either. 
5. No Old Norse approach to translate fits this stone, false. Why does the think that a Swede have done it? 
6. I think that new investigating is needed.

POTEAU stone arguments:

1 I don’t think that the weather argue is holding.
2 If it is Elder Futhark, I think a good argument for Vikings/Norse.
3 In Scandinavia, from the late 8th century, the script was simplified to the Younger Futhark, while the Anglo-Saxons and Frisians extended the Futhark which eventually became the Anglo-Saxon futhorc. Unlike the Anglo-Saxon and Younger Futharks, which remained in use during the Early and High Middle Ages, respectively, knowledge of how to read the Elder Futhark was forgotten until 1865, when it was deciphered by Norwegian scholar Sophus Bugge.
4 No Scandinavian/German emigrants know how to write Futhark in the 18 or 19 century.

Shawnee and Pawnee stone arguments:

1 I don’t think that the weather argue is holding.
2 If it is Elder Futhark, a good argument for Viking/Norse.

3 NW Germany was Viking land and trade center Bremen, Hamburg etc. and many more (Hansestadt). 

Myron: 1.  The Wikipedia author did not cite his qualifications to judge the age of rune stones.  Rune stones turned face down and covered with an inch of dust for each of nine centuries might not look “weathered.”

2. The author accepted the “Gnom” spelling without doing homework, which should have revealed that the strange “2nd character” was an old obscure Swedish rune that meant “r.”  That revision and restring the “M” rune to the rightful “W” orientation makes “Gnom” become Grow.”  “Dal” means, as always, “valley.

3.  The author claims there is no known Norse evidence in the area.  The author apparently did not know:
Heavner means, “high point in Old Norse
Shawnee means, Southern LENAPE
Pawnee means, “Priest.”
Poteau means, “Portal”  
[The Arkansas River
 cuts through the Ouachita Mountains at Poteau.
Ar (river) kan (channel) sas (Salt) is one ofmmost salty rivers in North America.
Then there is the Canadian River furthersouth than Canada.
 Kana(l) [Channel] Da(l) [valley]
Yes, Canada was named the same way for the St. Lawrence Seaway.
Norse names are found all the way up the Kana-da- River to Alle Bates (Every bodies’ hill) in the high plains of Texas.
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Maybe the author meant solid artifacts, like the
Smithville AR rune stone, or the stone graves in Arkansas, or the oil lamp that looks like one found in Greenland.

Or maybe he did not think he had to do homework
Like read IN PLAIN SIGHT.  The book is not listed in the Wikipedia references.
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Or maybe the author is well trained in the Social Science Scientific Method (SoS):
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1. Declare that the Rune Stones are “Modern” because “ there is no other Norse evidence around.  (Let the students do the research if they want.)
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2. Declare that the Smithville Rune stone is not valid because no other rune stones exist (in Arkansas).
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3. Declare that the place names are not Norse because there is no known evidence of Norse in the region.
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Then the Wikiprfis author might have been satisfied because he, too, had PROVEN that the NEW WORLD MYTH is still valid.
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NOTE:  WIKIPEDIA has "no central editors."  So comments we make to the SHAWNEE Rune Stone article are judged by the author of the original article.
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This is a situation that almost guarantees the the author of the article will NOT find statements about a "Large Norwegian marine corps, nine hundred years ago, which stayed for the winter at BATESVILLE (Hill Village) and explored the Arkansas and the Canadian Rivers until time to row their boats back to Europe after the hurricane season was over." 

The Wikipedia author, if he had found such a hypothesis, may have thought the story almost too ridiculous to tell to his coffee gang.

He certainly will not change an article with references that earned him a Wikipedia citation for his resume.

Besides the Wikipedia author is a strong believer that the NEW WORLD MYTH is valid or guys like him would have said something different long ago.

PLACE NAMES

What is the meaning of MISSOURI?
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For Missouri,
divide the name into MIS @MESV2079a 
and SOURI @ SOUV1299a.
SOURI is a place name.


VANG: MISSOURI
This the southern coast of the Bay of Fundy has become the country of the SOURIQUOIS.
The land in South.
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